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Re: Anyone managed 340/340 yet? (POSSIBLE SPOILERS!)
« Reply #15 on: June 28, 2012, 01:09:56 PM »
The baseball field points should really be when all 4 get there but you don't DO anything with them yet. That's how I'm counting my points as. Or when a scene is finished, then I make a save file for it so I can go from there to pick up points.

But at the field when I didn't have enough points, I was trying to do things to get to the high point amount.

Edit: I think I had 156 when I got to the field. I was 3 short.
AND, if achievements give you points, how do I get them the second time around after I've already gotten them?
« Last Edit: June 28, 2012, 01:15:23 PM by Jazzy »

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Re: Anyone managed 340/340 yet? (POSSIBLE SPOILERS!)
« Reply #16 on: June 28, 2012, 01:20:25 PM »
God damn it... I wonder what I've missed. You know, this might be a bit excessive, but the best way of doing this seems to be to make a list of everything you do that gives you points, and how many, and then see where there are disparities in different peoples' scores, then compare lists up to that point. The catch is it'll give the game a real stop-start feel and a lot less enjoyable, but it is the best way of doing it.

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Re: Anyone managed 340/340 yet? (POSSIBLE SPOILERS!)
« Reply #17 on: June 28, 2012, 01:31:30 PM »
That was why I was making so many saves and the name of my saves tells me how many points I have there, too. We need a lot more game scenarios in here to know just how many points we have where.

Oh, and I think I did Morales' journal, too, to get my 156 at the baseball field. I was clicking and doing all I could to find the points I'd missed.

Looks like it's back to the lab.

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Re: Anyone managed 340/340 yet? (POSSIBLE SPOILERS!)
« Reply #18 on: June 28, 2012, 01:45:49 PM »
I replayed from the start of buddy cop section, and somehow managed to get 339 by the end. I didn't do anything extra, I just basically picked only the right choices during conversations, and didn't bother inspecting stuff I didn't have to. Perhaps going through all the dialogue options isn't the way to go.

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Re: Anyone managed 340/340 yet? (POSSIBLE SPOILERS!)
« Reply #19 on: June 28, 2012, 01:47:54 PM »
@Jazzy: Well one thing I did that you may not have done - I certainly didn't do it in my first playthrough - was to rewire the lock to the metal door and move the fallen debris out of the way of the front door. Also trying to ring 14A at the start, I think. You also miss a few if you do the "don't lock the door" thing in kid Anna's room, you have to watch each memory and check the bear IIRC. Oh, and flirting thoroughly with Emma. Those are the ones that spring to mind that may be easy to miss, anyway.


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Re: Anyone managed 340/340 yet? (POSSIBLE SPOILERS!)
« Reply #20 on: June 28, 2012, 01:50:09 PM »
I'm missing three points at the baseball field too.  If I can find those I should be able to get the 340.  My highs:

Juno labs: 62
Baseball field: 157
Edgetown: 267
Final: 313
End: 337

Trying to narrow down where I'm missing those points - I start Anna's dream maze with 105.

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Re: Anyone managed 340/340 yet? (POSSIBLE SPOILERS!)
« Reply #21 on: June 28, 2012, 02:34:49 PM »
@Tropxe: I have no clue how to even open the number pad, let alone rewire the lock (which they say is the hardest puzzle). I didn't do that, but I had them move the debris first thing.
I rang 14A and got a point. I had to lock Anna's door or I couldn't finish, lol, and I did everything with the bear except unstuff it and checked her memories. I flirted with Emma, but don't remember a point from it.

I'll take spoilers for the rewiring puzzle. I should probably put that in another post, though?

Breyer got 62 points at Juno Labs?? We all got 61, did we miss one or was it a typo?

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Re: Anyone managed 340/340 yet? (POSSIBLE SPOILERS!)
« Reply #22 on: June 28, 2012, 02:51:16 PM »
^^ I'm pretty sure Breyer is correct. After all, you have 61, and you haven't even gotten the "ray's a bit of a jerk" -achievement, which you would HAVE to have, if you'd have collected that point. Well, now I'm wondering where I can find that one missing point during the tutorial sections :P

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Re: Anyone managed 340/340 yet? (POSSIBLE SPOILERS!)
« Reply #23 on: June 28, 2012, 03:03:01 PM »
Okay, well I'll do spoilers in increasing helpfulness so you can only get as spoiled as you need to be.

Hint 1:
You remove the panel from the keypad by using the screwdriver on the screws (I totally missed them on my first playthrough).

Hint 2:
The charges can be positive or negative.

Hint 3:
By making certain connections, and then changing one pin at a time on each row, you can figure out the charge of each pin. For example, go down the left side and see what it adds up to, then change one of the pins only, you can now see the relative difference between the pin you just changed from and the pin you changed to. Repeating this in a certain way can let you know all the values.

Hint 4:
The first 6 (going in "reading order") are all negative, the last 3 are all positive.

Hint 5:
Check out this diagram I made that shows the charge of each pin.

Hint 6 (the answer):
You want to start with -5 on the top row, then -6 on the middle row, right to -1 on the same row, down to 12 on the bottom row, then to the end pin at the bottom (this is from memory, I have to admit, it might be off but that certainly adds up to me).

Incidentally, here's my working out. It makes me look a lot cleverer than I am since maths always has that effect as it looks so technical. I was pretty much going on a whim for most of it.

Pins numbered like
123
456
789

By changing one pin in each row at a time, you figure out the relative values, as in Hint 3.

1=X, 2 =X-2, 3=X-1
4=Y, 5=Y+5, 6=Y-2
7=Z, 8=Z-7, 9=Z-5

Then you figure out 1, 4 and 7 by seeing what those three add up to (it's 8), then since you know the relative values on each row, you can go on to narrow down what 1, 4 and 7 are - thus working out what the whole thing is.


And there you go!  :) Oh, and as for flirting with Emma, you can do it three times (or thereabout) and doing all of them gets some points, IIRC.

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Re: Anyone managed 340/340 yet? (POSSIBLE SPOILERS!)
« Reply #24 on: June 28, 2012, 04:09:34 PM »
@Tropxe: I totally missed the screwdriver. From there on out, I didn't understand a word/hint of it and I showed my husband and he said "I feel like Buffy, 'Fire bad, tree pretty''. I feel the same way. Sorry, but I didn't understand any of your hints, but thank you for trying.

Edit: Got it. I'm not above cheating to get my achievement and 10 points when it's that hard.  ;D

Edit: After Morales dies/at little Anna's memories 101 points (I know I'm missing some, I'll have to go back and try to find them)
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Re: Anyone managed 340/340 yet? (POSSIBLE SPOILERS!)
« Reply #25 on: June 28, 2012, 04:42:15 PM »
I managed to find my missing point, 340 yay! :P

Btw, I'm pretty sure I know where those 3 points, that all of you guys are missing, are located. I added another checkpoint to the list to make finding them easier.
« Last Edit: June 28, 2012, 05:14:26 PM by ZX497 »

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Re: Anyone managed 340/340 yet? (POSSIBLE SPOILERS!)
« Reply #26 on: June 28, 2012, 05:25:30 PM »
Wow, congrats! I got the extra one with Ray, so hopefully I have 62 at the ball field. After that, there's numerous things to do, and everyone does them different (makes for great replay value) so it might be hard to find specific checkpoints where everyone is at to compare points. Still, all of this is a great help, and I'm having fun. :)

Oh, an addition: When you put the puzzle box, I assume this is after it's solved and that's a checkpoint? And the baseball field is when they all get there but you don't touch their inventory or go to the graveyard, right? Little explanations like this would be helpful. :)

My current stats:
Juno labs: 62.
Lab pipes fixed 83
Lab rewired 96 (giving Saul back his keys gave me 3 more)
Anna's dream maze: 108.
Anna after maze: 134.
Baseball Field: 160. (Ed tells about Resonance, Bennet uses LTM about seeing Ray.)
Current 191: Got items for Ozzy, Went to cemetery, Solved journal.
Current 217: Solved puzzle box, Bennet got blueprints

Edited my points.
« Last Edit: June 29, 2012, 12:20:33 AM by Jazzy »

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Re: Anyone managed 340/340 yet? (POSSIBLE SPOILERS!)
« Reply #27 on: June 28, 2012, 08:16:10 PM »
Somewhat on topic, I have a question on Anna's dream maze. On my play through, I missed the first memory and got the second and third, and after I got the third memory I dropped through the vent at the end which lands you back on the first level of the maze to get that missed first memory before exiting the maze. Now, since I got all three before exiting, I expected to receiving the dream maze achievement upon exiting. However, the achievement remains locked. Are you supposed to get the memories in order (1,2,3) in order to get the achievement? Or is there some sort of bug here?     

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Re: Anyone managed 340/340 yet? (POSSIBLE SPOILERS!)
« Reply #28 on: June 28, 2012, 09:12:33 PM »
@Sam: I do know that you need to exit and let Anna wake up on her own.

(NVM guys, I'll make this shorter now that I found them.)
Edit: Yes! I found them! Now I can move on. :)
« Last Edit: June 28, 2012, 09:35:53 PM by Jazzy »

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Re: Anyone managed 340/340 yet? (POSSIBLE SPOILERS!)
« Reply #29 on: June 28, 2012, 09:40:08 PM »
Yay! I found the three I was missing at the lab.  Now as long as I don't miss any of the ones I had before, I should have them all at the end.