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Chit Chat! / Re: Blackwell Convergence trailer
« on: April 11, 2009, 02:49:30 AM »
You beat me to it, JMallone. :) Yes, I just saw the trailer, and it looks fantastic! I also hope that it comes out by June. It looks like it will be well worth the wait!

Chit Chat! / Re: A question for Dave
« on: April 11, 2009, 02:47:13 AM »
Hi all,

Sorry it took me so long to respond to everyone.

@shany - I really didn't pay much attention to Dreamfall I'm afraid, since I just got back into gaming, so I didn't know about the combat. However, regarding your observation about limiting my search to Point and Click games.....um, I think that that was my point.  :) Whether you call them "Point and Click" games, or "old-style adventure games", my point was that they don't seem to be rushing to incorporate elements of other game types into them (like some other genres seem to be doing). As an example, since I posted, Tales of Bingwood has come out. I am eagerly awaiting for it to come onto one of the portals that I belong to, so I can afford to buy it, but it is a pure tribute to the old Lucasarts games, no fusion elements involved.

However, Wandering Willows has also come out since I first posted, and that may be closer to the type of "fusion game" that I was alluding to, although I'm not sure the story is robust enough to classify as an "adventure game".  (I'm also eagerly waiting for it to come to a portal that I can afford.)

@Dave - It's interesting that you mention Aveyond 2, since there was a recent announcement about Aveyond 3 that it would include minigames that, once completed, could be replayed at any time. Depending on the minigames, that might be exactly the kind of thing that I was wondering about. Also, I hadn't played Aveyond until this last week (and I intend to try Aveyond 2 after that). If Amaranth Games ever expands on the "buy a house and stock it with pets" experience in game with more robust "sim" characteristics, like buying furniture, decorating the house, having a garden, etc., then that would also be an example of what I meant.

Emerald City Confidential / Re: THIS GAME ROCKS!!
« on: March 30, 2009, 12:00:49 AM »
I absolutely agree. Dave, I really love your games! ECC seems to be doing very well, so I hope that you get more chances with Playfirst to create games. Looking very much forward to them!

Emerald City Confidential / Wow, ECC looks great!
« on: February 10, 2009, 04:31:33 AM »
Hi Dave!

Just watched the new vidcast and wanted to say that ECC looks like it will be fantastic! :D

Chit Chat! / Re: A question for Dave
« on: February 10, 2009, 04:22:15 AM »
Really? Wow, that's interesting. It sounds like there must be two separate trends going on right now. I hadn't realized that there were so many "pure" genre games being made again. Somehow I've just been more cognizant of games like MCF: Return to Ravenhearst, Puzzle Quest, Ancient Quest of Saqqarah, Totem Tribe, Heartwild Solitaire, etc. that are definitely fusion titles.

I wonder if maybe my impression was merely due to the titles I was paying attention to? I have zero interest in shooters and platformers, or anything else that doesn't have a solid story connected to it, which pretty much means that it needs to be some sort of adventure game, fusion or not. I guess I'm still curious though about why I haven't seen any "3rd person" fusion games  (as opposed to "1st-person" or "Myst-style" games, which seem to be experimenting quite a bit with various fusions, especially with HO elements).

Can I give a specific example here? I really loved MCF: Return to Ravenhearst (which is a "Myst-style" game). The developers said that 7th Guest was an inspiration for the game and it showed. Just as in 7th Guest, you are wandering around a spooky old house trying to get into various rooms. You often have to solve logic puzzles connected to the doors (the sorts of puzzles that you see in Safecracker, for example). In addition, they solved the "hunt the pixel" problem beautifully, by introducing certain places where you had to find lists of hidden objects, one of which turned out to be an inventory item that you needed.

To use that specific example, logically it seems like those sorts of "door puzzles" and "HO screens" could be added to 3rd person adventure games just as easily as 1st person games. (When you click on a door for your character to go through, instead of just exiting, a "puzzle lock" could pop that you need to solve before the door would open.) However, while all sorts of changes and experimentation are going on with 1st person games, it seems that 3rd person games are staying true to their roots. (I don't mean that as criticism in ANY way. I love 3rd person adventure games and would gladly play them, fusion elements or not.)

So that was why I was asking the question. Is it resources (i. e. do the available tools just not allow for it and/or the extra overhead of programming logic puzzles would just be too much)? Or is it more germane to the genre itself? Are programmers and players of 3rd person adventure games just not that interested in incorporating elements of different genres into 3rd person adventure games?

Again, for me it's as much just an academic question, since I'll play 3rd person adventure games however they present themselves, as long as the story is compelling. But I am curious as to the fact that so many of the other genres seem to be madly experimenting with incorporating bits and pieces of other genres into them, and 3rd person adventure games are not (at least not to my knowledge).

Chit Chat! / A question for Dave
« on: February 09, 2009, 02:39:54 AM »
Hi Dave!

I'm very much looking forward to ECC, the new Blackwell game, and puzzlebots, as well as several other "Sierra-style games" that are slated to come out. I'm an old-time game player from the 80's and 90's, and I've been thrilled in the last year to discover that people are making the old "Sierra-style" games again.

However, there is something that's been puzzling me, so I thought that I would ask you. Someone on one of the game sites that I visit said recently that 2008 "would be [remembered as] the year HOGs [hidden object games] shun the HOG label for point-and-click adventures like in the old PC days". In thinking about it, I think that I would say that 2008 was the year that *everyone* shunned the <fill in the blank genre> for point-and-click adventures.

There have been an explosion of adventure titles that are fusions of previous genres. There are now Myst-style adventure games, strategy adventure games, match 3 adventure games and even card solitaire adventure games, some with Mini-games and/or HO elements, as well as inventory. In addition, even games that are more genre games tend to have at least some adventure aspects to them (in the sense that they try to have some sort of story connected to them).

The one genre that seems to be staying "pure" is the Sierra-style of adventure game. Unless I don't know about them, I just can't think of "Sierra-style games" that I would consider "fusion" or "cross-genre" games. I am really curious as to why that is so. Is it by choice? Limited resources? Something else?

I realize that you're really busy right now, but would love to hear your thoughts on this, either in this thread, or as a vidcast sometime.

The Blackwell series / Great Games!!!
« on: July 27, 2008, 05:21:19 PM »
I've been reading this site for a few weeks and thought I'd unlurk and say what a pleasure it has been to find the Blackwell games. I'm really looking forward to the 3rd installment, as well as the PF project!

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