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Wadjet Eye Games => The Shivah => Topic started by: Yuri on November 12, 2013, 02:53:29 PM

Title: Kosher Edition
Post by: Yuri on November 12, 2013, 02:53:29 PM
Just played the Demo - thanks, that's great! New portraits looks very nice, as well as commentaries and achivements! However, new persons' figures are very large now comparing to the  furniture they are supposed to use :)
I have few questions about the pre-order.
1. Humble store says about digital DRM-free download, Will we get Steam key as well?
2. What about Shivah the original? It is no longer on this site, but it is in my games on Desura, and I have one from the old store here as well. Will it be transformed into the new Kosher edition some day, or would it remain as an obsolte (and rare) version?
3. No Shivah page on Steam yet. I hope it will have all the achievemetns? And what about Steam collecting cards?
Title: Re: Kosher Edition
Post by: DaveGilbert on November 12, 2013, 05:02:08 PM

1. Humble store says about digital DRM-free download, Will we get Steam key as well?

Yep! You should get one when you purchase. The key will unlock the game on Steam when the game launches.

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2. What about Shivah the original? It is no longer on this site, but it is in my games on Desura, and I have one from the old store here as well. Will it be transformed into the new Kosher edition some day, or would it remain as an obsolte (and rare) version?

We are still thinking about how to handle the original version. It used a much older version of the AGS engine, which only used the DirectDraw graphics filter and that is not supported these days. So we'd essentially be releasing something we couldn't support and I'm not sure how we feel about that. This is a question we decided to kick down the road until after the remake launches. We'll be able to think clearer than. :)

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3. No Shivah page on Steam yet. I hope it will have all the achievemetns? And what about Steam collecting cards?

It's not on Steam because the game isn't actually out! :) And yes, it will have achievements. As for cards... one day! We plan on making cards for all our games.
Title: Re: Kosher Edition
Post by: epmode on November 12, 2013, 06:58:13 PM
I assume that owners of the older, paid copy will have to rebuy the new version? 

Not that I really mind, it looks like a full remake.
Title: Re: Kosher Edition
Post by: RaivokasMagma on November 14, 2013, 09:48:01 AM
Will this be on GOG.com someday? I fondly remember buying Blackwell Bundle and after that buying every game you released from there.
Title: Re: Kosher Edition
Post by: DaveGilbert on November 14, 2013, 09:50:19 AM
You can take it as a given that everything we do in the future will be on both Steam and GOG. If they DON'T decide to take something, you'll be sure to hear about it. :D
Title: Re: Kosher Edition
Post by: Loerwyn on November 14, 2013, 04:36:56 PM
You can take it as a given that everything we do in the future will be on both Steam and GOG. If they DON'T decide to take something, you'll be sure to hear about it. :D
Is it perhaps the case that your 'problem', or part of it, is you sell titles below GOG's lowest price? GOG's pricing starts at $5.99 (the $4.99 price was a trial), which means to sell The Shivah: Kosher Edition and perhaps Puzzle Bots on GOG would require bumping the price up by at least $1? Obviously $1 isn't a big deal, but it does look strange to have a game at $5.99 on one store and $4.99 elsewhere. The only way around it I can think of would be a sort-of combo pack, with The Shivah, Puzzle Bots and something else in one package for, say, $10. But again that's not a perfect solution.

So is it safe to assume that one reason these titles might not be on GOG - aside from GOG perhaps rejecting them for now, which they've been known to do - is that you price below GOG's lowest boundary?

(Actually, may have spotted a flaw in my theory or a workaround. The Shivah: Kosher Edition + OST = $6 value at least, but generally OST inclusion is considered 'gratis')

Edit/P.S.: Talking of the OST, any plans to release the new one?
Title: Re: Kosher Edition
Post by: DaveGilbert on November 14, 2013, 04:38:59 PM
I don't know if there ever was a problem. I never submitted Puzzle Bots or Shivah to them before, so they never had a chance to reject it. :)
Title: Re: Kosher Edition
Post by: Loerwyn on November 14, 2013, 04:42:11 PM
I don't know if there ever was a problem. I never submitted Puzzle Bots or Shivah to them before, so they never had a chance to reject it. :)
Gosh, you don't half reply quick, Mr Gilbert! That's... probably the problem, then ;)

I edited my post with an additional question, but I'll repeat it as it's kinda on-topic. Will the new OST be available at some point too?
Title: Re: Kosher Edition
Post by: Tigrou on November 18, 2013, 03:02:34 PM
I've just played the demo too (after having pre-ordered, since I hadn't noticed there was a demo at once), it's great and whets my appetite. Now I just have to wait for November the 21st...
Title: Re: Kosher Edition
Post by: Yuri on November 21, 2013, 10:55:03 AM
The Kosher Edition is now in AppStore and on Gog.com, but sadly not in Humble Store and not on Steam...
Upd. Finally - the game is both in Humble Store (for those who pre-ordered) and in Steam as well!
Title: Re: Kosher Edition
Post by: kisstizencool on November 21, 2013, 01:14:02 PM
Hi everyone,
This re-releasing is great news, and allows young incomers to discover a game they had missed out.
Sure, I'd prefer to have it from WEG's (humble-based) store, but Gog actually offers the 2006 classic edition with the 2013 Kosher one : doesn't WEG so ?
Thanks,
kc
Title: Re: Kosher Edition
Post by: choobs on November 21, 2013, 03:04:15 PM
I pre-purchased the game from the Humble Store, not realizing it would be on GOG and include the "Classic" edition there.  Is it possible to get a GOG key if you've purchased via the Humble Store?  In addition to really wanting the Classic version, all my other Wadjet Eye games were purchased via the GOG store so it would also do my OCD good to have them all there :)

If it's not possible/feasible, that's fine, I should have just waited.  I'm just curious.
Title: Re: Kosher Edition
Post by: DaveGilbert on November 21, 2013, 03:10:48 PM
We are going to try and make the "classic" version to those who purchased direct. Sadly Humble doesn't make this easy. It's something they are working on. :)
Title: Re: Kosher Edition
Post by: Raimu on November 21, 2013, 04:39:15 PM
Hiya. Uh, there's no bug thread for Shivah's Steam version, so I'm posting both the praise and the glitches here.

I hadn't played the game before. I liked it a lot. :) It's short and a bit simple compared to some of WE games, but I'm happy with it.

That said, I encountered a nasty glitch where the dialogues start skipping from here to eternity if I enter the Steam sidebar (via shift-Tab) and chat with a friend there. I missed the entire epilogue that way my first time around - the game just skipped every dialogue box and all of the voice acting. Oops.

Additionally, and I know this is not a bug per se, I found the way the player is forced to watch the introductory joke and the HARD-BOILED RABBI MONOLOGUE every time they start the game (or die and have to go back to the menu) kind of irritating. I'd say it's a user experience design mistake.

Hm, so there. Thank you.
Title: Re: Kosher Edition
Post by: DaveGilbert on November 21, 2013, 04:41:19 PM
Sadly, AGS games (of which the Shivah is one) do not react well to the Steam overlay/sidebar. It's a known problem which we are unable to fix because it's an engine issue and not a game code issue. So the only way to fix it is to avoid it entirely. Sorry.
Title: Re: Kosher Edition
Post by: Raimu on November 21, 2013, 05:00:33 PM
Ah, I understand. However, please consider allowing for, say, ESC key to skip everything in the intro. My humble request. :)

(edit) Uh, forgot to mention the bar cameo! It really made my day.
Title: Re: Kosher Edition
Post by: DaveGilbert on November 21, 2013, 05:50:28 PM
Ah, I understand. However, please consider allowing for, say, ESC key to skip everything in the intro. My humble request. :)

You can! Or at least, you should.
Title: Re: Kosher Edition
Post by: Yuri on November 21, 2013, 10:26:45 PM
And here's the first (and I hope the only) Steam bug - there are two achievements (both Mentsh and Ubermentsh ) that unlock in the game itself, but not in Steam!
Title: Re: Kosher Edition
Post by: Raimu on November 22, 2013, 03:36:18 AM
Oh! I can confirm this one from Yuri. Both of those achievement remain locked in Steam for me, too, despite having achieved them.
Title: Re: Kosher Edition
Post by: march on November 26, 2013, 10:58:37 AM
Concerning Humble store it would be a nice idea if you could add  "Shivah the original" as a bonus.  :)

Another point: I'm running Linux. It is possible to extract the content of  ShivahSetup.exe via innoextract but it would be more comfortable to find also an archive (zip/rar...) on my personal humble store page. It would be great if you could do this.  :D

Sorry for my bad english...
Title: Re: Kosher Edition
Post by: jackymltd on March 22, 2018, 08:03:45 AM
So is it safe to assume that one reason these titles might not be on GOG - aside from GOG perhaps rejecting them for now, which they've been known to do - is that you price below GOG's lowest boundary?
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