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Wadjet Eye Games => The Blackwell series => Topic started by: Mr_Nabby on January 24, 2012, 03:40:15 PM

Title: Thoughts and Questions about the Blackwell-series
Post by: Mr_Nabby on January 24, 2012, 03:40:15 PM
-SPOILERS-

I recently bought the Blackwell Bundle on Steam, and I absolutely loved it. It's a truly great adventure series. I just discovered the games right after New Years, but I waited to buy them on Steam so that I could get the remastered versions.

My favorite of them is probably Convergence. It has a really great atmosphere, a throughout exiting story, and it wraps up the “Joe Gould Trilogy” quite nicely.
It also has, in my opinion, the best character portraits. I just love the style that they are drawn. Deception's portraits were also nice, but the per-mentioned were more fitting. And, plus, they animated.

But anyway, let's talk about some of the things that I have been thinking about after playing through the games, like some things I might have missed, or plot holes.

1: John Durkin
If you remember, he is the father of Sam Durkin from Unbound,  Deception, and I think The Shivah... Anyway, it is said in Unbound that he died, both Sam and Mavis mentioned that.

However, in Legacy, the last letter that Lauren got was from a law office, answering a question about Lauren’s legal rights to raise Rosa. And who is it from? John Durkin.

2: Frank Lyons = Joe Gould?
In Convergence, when you talk to Frank Lyons, he appears to be a schizophrenic, randomly spouting nonsense about Joe Gould and the Minetta. But how did he know these things? He had never been at the Minetta, and he had never even heard about Joe Gould. I didn't even see a copy of the book “Joe Gould's Secret” in his apartment.
Plus, Monique didn't know about any of them either, so Frank couldn't have been a schitz when he lived, or she should have noised.

Did the echo of Joe Gould attach itself on his soul when the Countess killed him? Hmm...

3: Tomo
Ok, this isn't a plot hole or anything, I just want to start a discussion about this. Who is Tomo?
We have seen a cople of spam e-mails from him, selling software. If you Oogle “tomo” a bunch of nonsense comes up.
At the nightclub Munray's, the machine you select songs on is called “Virtual DJ (by DJ Tomo)” and if you Oogle “munray's” they even point out “Special guest appearance by DJ Tomo!”

So who is this Tomo? Is he going to appear in a future game? Probably.


Ehh, enough about this. Might as well be useful and provide some bugs.

Legacy: After you talk to Ali the first time, Rosa's text box reads: “ I should get to bed”, but the voice says “No”.
Also, if you talk to the Deacon after he drops his flask, he still use the drinking animation.

Convergence: If you look at the Countess when she tries to kill Charles, it reads “She's trying to kill him!” but there is no voice.

Deception: When you talk to Lisa over the buzzer about Danny Marconni you see Lisa's normal character portrait, instead of the dark shadowy one.


That's what I have for now, thanks for the great games, and good luck on the next one. I can't wait to play it.
Title: Re: Thoughts and Questions about the Blackwell-series
Post by: Mr_Nabby on January 29, 2012, 12:00:14 PM
Hey, I just think I figured out exactly who the villain for the next Blackwell game is going to be. I don't know if someone else have posted this theory, but here goes...

My guess is that the Police commissioner Alex Silva is with the mystic organization that Gavin was involved in. She sounded just like the woman Gavin talked to on the telephone, it would make sense for someone like "them" to be in powerful positions, and her “public announcement” sounded just a bit personal.


On another note, couldn't it be interesting to see a ghost haunting a person instead of a place? Maybe even intentionally. Someone like The Deacon, that knows he is dead, but stays to inflict harm on a living person. You know, the typical evil spirit.
Title: Re: Thoughts and Questions about the Blackwell-series
Post by: CountCant on February 05, 2012, 12:58:27 PM
First off, I agree with all the praise.  :)

Other than that:

*SPOILERS*

The meaning of those spam mails by Tomo was revealed in one of the audio commentaries I listened to, I think it was in The Shivah (great stuff, too! I usually don't listen to audio commentaries on movies but I found the commentary by Dave Gilbert quite interesting). If I recall correctly Tomo was meant to be the main character in an abandoned project about a hacker. His re-occurence in the Blackwell series made me wonder whether it's just a running gag or if there's still a possibility that he might appear in a future game.

I haven't listened to all of the audio commentaries in the Blackwell series yet - maybe the answers to your other questions could also be found by listening to them? If not, I'd be interested in the one about Frank Lyons, too. While I enjoyed the story of Convergence, I didn't quite get what Joe Gould had to do with Lyons and at the end the question remained unsolved (I think).
Title: Re: Thoughts and Questions about the Blackwell-series
Post by: Mr_Nabby on February 06, 2012, 03:30:56 PM
An abandoned project you say? And this was mentioned in The Shivah? Well, I've listened to the commentaries to all of the Blackwell games, and Dave didn't mention anything about the questions I've listed, Tomo or that project. All-though, he did mention several other projects he worked on, like Bestowers of Eternity and Two of a Kind.

Plus some games that he recommended to play, such as Enclosure, Ben Jordan, and Eternity Us.
Title: Re: Thoughts and Questions about the Blackwell-series
Post by: DaveGilbert on February 06, 2012, 05:52:54 PM
CC's got it.  Tomo exists in my game's world, even if you never see the person. :)
Title: Re: Thoughts and Questions about the Blackwell-series
Post by: pezhead53 on February 09, 2012, 11:52:42 PM
If I recall correctly Tomo was meant to be the main character in an abandoned project about a hacker. His re-occurence in the Blackwell series made me wonder whether it's just a running gag or if there's still a possibility that he might appear in a future game.
If I may make one minor correction, The Shivah commentary stated Tomo was a she, not a he.